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Posted: Old 02-08-2010, 07:53 AM
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This is a post i had in the dark side young members forum and I just wanted all of ya'lls opinion on this.

I've had a horrible cold or flu, Im not not sure which, for a week now and Ive been on a lot of cold medicine that makes me feel, well, high. I was not in a clear state of mind for days. I stated to feel a little better and decided that if I cant feel good and I have no one coming over and I dont have to work I might as well try to look good. I had a lot of time so i went all out to do a good job, showing, shaving, pumicing and all that good stuff before I got dressed and put on make up.

I spent a lot of time picking the shades of shadow and putting it on just right to get the look of someone who is healthy. I think I accomplished that just fine. you can see for yourself. I looked cute damn it. (it was the Do I look like another girl at the mall photo thread, it wont let me upload it again)

But now to the point i started making at the beginning of this. As I sat back down on the couch in that cloudy state of mind I started to have self doubt and confusing thoughts. When I got up and looked in the mirror I said to myself "What am I doing?"

I didnt have an answer to that. I still dont. Just what am I doing this for. What am I spending hours learning about how to apply make up correctly and what cuts of clothes are going to be good for my shape and teaching myself "un-natural" mannerisms, and spending a LOT of money. I have goals for what I wanted to do while dressing. Ive stated them here before, But I dont know what Im doing. What is it that I'm trying to get from this? Is there even a point to all of this? I mean. when I dress i feel right, but most of the time I feel just as right when Im in drab. I dont think I want to transition, or even live as a woman as part of my normal life, well i do and I dont. I know its made me a better boyfriend since I have sympathy to what women go though. But how tied are my masculine and feminine sides. Is this ties deep to my own sexuality or something that can be added or dropped from me from time to time. Do I want to try experiencing life as a woman? Do I need to explore deeper into the fem world or pull back and live in it less.

Ive just come to this impasse where I dont know what am doing or where Im going with this anymore.

If anyone has any insight, advice, a similar situation or just a "stop taking Nyquil" it would be helpful.
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Posted: Old 02-08-2010, 08:06 AM
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Well for one thing, stop taking nyquil

Thing is I don't get it sometimes. Why do we have to go anywhere? Can't we just live in the moment without having to have some "Ultimate Plan". Seems to me there's more fun enjoying what you have than worrying about what's next. What if they isn't anything next? Do we have to make a "next"? Are we bored?

Is the sky blue? Does Christopher Walken really like cowbells? Is mini me really a midget?

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Posted: Old 02-08-2010, 08:28 AM
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Oh, lordy, Megan!

Even at my advanced age (snark!), I get that "What the heck am I doing?" thing, too. Well, just every once in a while these days.

But Tris's take ... 'Just live for the NOW'... is the answer for those of us who, like you, are still up in the air about a future life (whether full time or part time) as our nicer selves.

The time may come when we've made that decision, but there's no way to force it by over-thinking it. That way demons lay! Just allowing ourselves to be open to any possibility, without our socially implanted self judgement, without fear of alleged hell-fire, is the way to go, hun!

Sha-la-la-la, live for today!

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Posted: Old 02-08-2010, 08:40 AM
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Listen to Tristen

Long Version:
I have felt exactly the same from time to time. (and I wasn't even on Nyquil) Always after dressing. After the 'fix'. At one time this would lead to a purge. Then I would binge. Talk about expensive. I am about twice as old as you, still don't know why, still find dressing a hassle sometime, but now realize it is a part of me, and I suspect it is also a part of you. The desire has never left, but now that I am not purging but instead accepting, something you appear to have already learnt (must be smarter than me) I have found peace with myself and my dressing.

I don't know what the future holds, but I know my life is great right now, I am not looking for any meaningful changes and I no longer worry too much until I need to.
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Posted: Old 02-08-2010, 11:01 AM
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Megan, welcome to the gang. Because, yes, we've all been there at some time and it can lead to the deadly purging which is even more expensive in the long run than not-purging. There are so many possible answers:
  • What is the point of anything we do? We'll all be dead in a hundred years anyway. I throw this in, NOT because I think the answer is "there's no point, pass me the cyanide" but because it's a real question and if taken seriously can lead to non-trivial external purposes such as "I must help the third world" or "I must find God" or simply "I must phone my mum". All worthy things.
  • What we do can lead to an inner purpose like for example "I need to find out where I'm located on the gender scale", or "I'll feel much happier when I've discovered which colour shadow suits my eyes". These are also non-trivial -- don't believe people who tell you otherwise -- though they don't perhaps last as long as helping the third world. But at least they're better than making a collection of guns, switchblades or heroin syringes.
  • But why do we need a purpose? We listen to Bach or the Rolling Stones or Dolly Parton because it gives us great pleasure. We read Shakespeare or Terry Pratchett just for the joy of reading them. Perhaps it doesn't make the world better but it makes us better. But (unless you're mugging for an exam) there's no purpose in it as such. Just enjoy.
And if it stops being enjoyable, stop doing it.

(But don't purge.)
 
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Posted: Old 02-08-2010, 05:52 PM
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Megan,

I think we have all been where you are at some point in our journey. It's natural to question why we do the things we do. It's even healthy! You have gotten great advice from the girls who have responded. I agree with them.

Dress and primp and do makeup when you have the desire. When you feel like playing football or taking apart a car engine, do those things.

I have learned that one of the great joys of being transgender is the duality of my identities. I love aspects and activities unique to both. I have learned that you can be happy playing both sides of the fence. You don't have to choose sides if you don't want to.

I wish you all the best. You can always share your thoughts and feelings here.

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Posted: Old 02-08-2010, 10:18 PM
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I like the short version.Listen to Tristen.
Now I'm going out for some Nyquil.
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Posted: Old 02-08-2010, 11:15 PM
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One advantage of getting older is that, although I still ask myself those questions sometimes, I usually forget to think up some answers. I guess it's just not that important anymore.

Nyquil will fry your liver. Your going to need that. I take 5K IU of vitamin D per day and haven't had a cold or flu in years (knock on wood).
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Looking North to the sea she finds the weather fine
She hears the steeple bells ringing through the orchard
All the way from town
She watches seagulls fly
Silver on the ocean stitching through the waves
The edges of the sky
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Posted: Old 02-09-2010, 07:55 PM
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I used to have feelings like that all the time. Mostly cause I was still trying to be the man that society told me I should be. You know the successful husband with 3 kids, a beautiful wife, and white picket fence. That's just not me, I'm the beautiful wife. You may not be the beautiful wife but Megan is part of what makes up the complete you. She's like a best friend that always understands, always sees your side of things, and is always there for you. So what are you doing? You're hangin' out with your best friend, she just wanted to look extra pretty for you that day.

And don't be hatin' on NyQuil. It's great stuff, I couldn't sleep without it some nights.
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Posted: Old 02-10-2010, 10:41 AM
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I love to answer this sort of question with a question...What if?

What if crossdressing were considered by society as normal as playing golf? Golfers spend as much money, time & effort, if not more on their activities as Cders. Both provide stresses to the individual and the family ie. being away every Saturday morning sneaking out of work on pleasant days to get a round in, leaving the family on vacation to play a golf course while they wait at the hotel pool. The constant need to buy new and more expensive stuff... But there are no societal taboos about golf.

What we are doing, is enjoying the experiences of emulating the feminine gender as best we can. It is as much a part of who we are as anything else about us, we would not ask this question about the books we read or the music we listen to nor the other activities we engage in only this part of our life comes into scrutiny...This is who we are, and Megan you are particularly blessed to have arrived where you are on your journey at your age, looking as cute as you do.

PS don't blame nyquil that is my favorite medicine when I'm sick, mostly because it comes with a shot glass.
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Posted: Old 02-10-2010, 11:24 AM
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I do it because it is me. It would be easy to say I do it because I'm transsexual, but I could be transsexual without being the girly girly I am. Nothing is black and white and we are made of various shades, so I have my boudoir, my bears, my hundreds of shoes, my glamour photos and my vast wardrobe because they are what make me... me.

I love my life and I love the things that make me smile. If someone gets excited washing their car, or building a shed... good for them. I'll give it a miss as I'd rather be shopping for heels.

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Posted: Old 02-10-2010, 11:49 AM
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I love to answer this sort of question with a question...What if?

What if crossdressing were considered by society as normal as playing golf? Golfers spend as much money, time & effort, if not more on their activities as Cders. Both provide stresses to the individual and the family ie. being away every Saturday morning sneaking out of work on pleasant days to get a round in, leaving the family on vacation to play a golf course while they wait at the hotel pool. The constant need to buy new and more expensive stuff... But there are no societal taboos about golf.

What we are doing, is enjoying the experiences of emulating the feminine gender as best we can. It is as much a part of who we are as anything else about us, we would not ask this question about the books we read or the music we listen to nor the other activities we engage in only this part of our life comes into scrutiny...This is who we are, and Megan you are particularly blessed to have arrived where you are on your journey at your age, looking as cute as you do.

PS don't blame nyquil that is my favorite medicine when I'm sick, mostly because it comes with a shot glass.


I love the little shot glass it comes with, mix it with OJ and a little vodka, and boom its awesome.

Anywho I like your golf analogy, but the main thing I have is that I do this like if I keep doing it Im going to win a prize. With golf the results are tangible. strokes off your game. Im not stopping or purging. I just wish I had a directions I was going or a prize at the end
 
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Posted: Old 02-10-2010, 12:58 PM
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OK, so set yourself a direction. About 20 years ago, I drew up a wish-list, which ran something like this: While dressed I would like to...
  • Walk down the Champs Elysées
  • Take a train
  • Take a bus
  • Take a tube train
  • Have dinner in a château
  • Go to the cinema
  • Go to the theatre
  • Appear on stage
  • Appear on television
  • Do my daily work
  • Take a plane
  • Go swimming in a bikini
Now I can say I've done all but the last two.

As for the prize - it's the thrill of doing it! At least it is if you're an adrenaline junkie like me.
 
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Posted: Old 02-11-2010, 09:56 AM
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'cause it's fun


'cause in a month you'll just HAVE to do it


'cause if you didn't, you wouldn't have any pictures to post for us to see.
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